Boeing 787 Dreamliner

[FAS]

é adesso le compagnie aeree ne approfittano

[atalanta89]

LOT riceverà il suo primo 787 nel 2012:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... -2012.html

andranno a sostituire gli attuali 767-300ER.

[i_disa]

(Reuters) - Boeing Co (BA.N) said on Tuesday that it has signed an MOU with Hainan Airlines Co Ltd (600221.SS) parent HNA Group for 38 aircraft.

Boeing said the deal included six 777s, and 32 787s.

HNA said it had signed an MOU for five planes from General Dynamics (GD.N) unit Gulfstream, and five planes from Dassault Aviation (AVMD.PA) (US$1=HK$7.78) (Reporting by Alison Leung; Editing by Chris Lewis)

[atalanta89]

Nuove date per sto 7late7...

http://networkedblogs.com/fbCoY

[atalanta89]

787-1000 prima del 777NG:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/b ... ing12.html

[richelieu]

Ahi ahi ahi .....

DATE: 15/03/11
SOURCE: Air Transport Intelligence News (flightglobal.com)

Boeing to miss 787 performance spec: Albaugh

By Jon Ostrower


Boeing Commercial Airplanes CEO Jim Albaugh, for the first time, has acknowledged that the 787 will miss its intended performance specifications, though the majority composite jet will still meet the mission requirements of its customers.

"I'll be the first to admit that we're not going to meet the spec, but I think we'll be able to meet what our guarantees are," said Albaugh today at the International Society of Transport Aircraft Trading (ISTAT) conference in Scottsdale, Arizona.

Boeing's current spec calls for the aircraft to fly 14,200km to 15,200km (7,650nm to 8,200nm) range at maximum takeoff weight (MTOW) of 227,930kg (502,500lb) with 242 passengers in a three-class configuration.

Albaugh says "the first airplanes are going to be a little heavy" and the company has engine and airframe performance improvement packages to "clean the airplane up".

He adds: "I feel pretty comfortable that over time we'll be able to get to [14,800km (8,000nm) range]." However, adds Albaugh, "When that date's going to be, I can't tell you."

Originally designed to fly 14,200km to 15,200km with a maximum takeoff weight (MTOW) of 219,540kgs (484,000lbs), the MTOW has creeped up to 227,900kg (502,500lbs) in part to regain the aircraft's payload range performance, starting with Airplane 20.

Mike Bair, who currently heads Boeing's 737 advanced development effort, said in a recent interview that the 787 would achieve "high teens in terms of fuel burn" advantage over the 767 and "high single digits in terms of cash operating costs," but adds: "It would've been higher, but we decided to trade some of that currency for payload range, so to give the airlines an opportunity to work the revenue side of the equation."

Both 787 engine suppliers Rolls-Royce and General Electric are working on improvement packages for their respective engines. Rolls-Royce will introduce its 'Package B' model, expected to bring the Trent 1000 engine within 1% of originally planned specification, while GE is currently flight testing its Product Improvement Package (PIP1) on its 747-100 test bed.

The Rolls-Royce 'Package B' Trent 1000 includes a revisedsix-stage low pressure turbine (LPT) design, high-aspect-ratio blades, relocation of the intermediate-pressure (IP) compressor bleed offtake ports and a fan outlet guide vanes with improved aerodynamics. Boeing says the Package B configuration has not yet flown on any of the 787 test aircraft.

Further, industry officials suggest that Rolls-Royce is working on a 'Package C' engine intended to further improve engine performance on the larger 787-9.

GE says PIP1, which includes a revised low pressure turbine (LPT), will be test flown on ZA005 mid-year. The revision increases the blade, vane and nozzle count after a weight-saving reduction in these areas reduced performance. PIP1 is believed to bring the GEnx-1B engine within 1% of planned specification, say industry officials.

A second PIP2, which features aerodynamic improvements to the high pressure compressor (HPC), has been in ground testing since December and GE expects to flight test the changes in the second half of 2011.Certification of these changes is likely in the first quarter of 2012, followed by entry into service in late 2012, says GE.

Japan's All Nippon Airways anticipates taking delivery of the first 787 in the third quarter of 2011.

[FAS]

son cose che si sanno da un bel pó....

e se non rispetti le SPEC non puoi nemmeno emanare le dichiarazioni di performance.....come ne suciranno i nostri eroi????

ma forse gli enti certificanti anche in questo caso chiuderanno un occhio ed accetteranno le deviazioni

certo questi sconti alle altre case costruttrici gli enti AW non li hanno mai fatti....

cialtroni..... o professionisti????
a voi la risposta


L'EASA dovrebbe da parte sua valutare bene se far volare questa macchina nei cieli Europei.....


ed ancora non sono uscite fuori tutte le magagne......

[richelieu]

Prime consegne previste per Luglio .....

DATE: 15/03/11
SOURCE: Air Transport Intelligence news (flightglobal.com)

Boeing pegs July for 787 first delivery

By Jon Ostrower

With the latest iteration of its 787 schedule, Boeing aims to hand over the first aircraft to Japan's All Nippon Airways in late July, the first of 20 planned for delivery in 2011, according to several sources familiar with the new plan.

While Boeing won't confirm the late July guidance, that target remains in line with an "early summer" completion of flight test activities.

Industry officials said previously ANA had been provided a September guidance by Boeing for its first delivery following the November 2010 fire that prompted an additional six-month delay in first delivery, though the latest schedule reflects a more optimistic target for first delivery.

Boeing's official guidance reflects a third quarter target, allowing the company to deliver the first 787 anywhere from 1 July to 30 September.



Several sources familiar with Z23, the latest 787 delivery plan, say Airplane Eight - also known as ZA101 - the second production 787, will be the first 787 delivered and will feature a two-class medium to short-haul configuration for the Japanese carrier.

ANA will receive its first long-range configured 787, Airplane 24, in August, which will feature an increased maximum takeoff weight (MTOW) of 227,930kg (502,500lbs) for recovered payload range performance. All aircraft after line number 20 have the MTOW.

Airplane Seven, which was initially expected to be the first 787 delivered, along with Airplane Nine, which is now sequestered for delivery preparation, and Airplane 31 will be handed over to ANA in September, with Japan Airlines' first - Airplane 23 - to follow in October.

At the 11 March opening of its 787 change incorporation facility in San Antonio, Texas - which now hosts Airplane 23 - 787 programme vice president and general manager, Scott Fancher explained Z23 may not be the final plan. Fancher says the delivery sequence "is still evolving a bit, and that is still somewhat coupled to our detailed plans on F&R (functionality and reliability) and ETOPS (extended operations)". Once Boeing settles on its F&R and ETOPS testing, the airframer can settle on a delivery sequence, says Fancher.

Fancher adds "we are absolutely focused on getting through F&R and ETOPS before delivery", which is expected to get underway in the "next couple of months".

Nineteen aircraft will follow after the first 787 delivery in July, and ANA will be joined by Japan Airlines, Air India and China Southern in receiving 787s this year.

[JT8D]

Slitta al 2016 la consegna dei 787 di Korean:

http://www.dedalonews.it/it/index.php/0 ... 7-al-2016/

Paolo

[atalanta89]

Air Pacific cancella gli ordini:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... order.html

[sidew]

Postato contemporaneamente nei due thread 747 e 787

[Skip100]

[JT8D]

Dal Portale, iniziato l'addestramento dei piloti ANA:

http://www.md80.it/2011/04/27/boeing-in ... iloti-787/

Paolo

[atalanta89]

Boeing ha alzato il MTOW a 553000lb/250837kg da 545000lb/247208kg per il 787-900
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/airpor ... ochure.pdf

e la FAA ha certificato i Trent 1000 con certificazione ETOPS:
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fligh ... ent-1.html

[A320 Family Fan]

ANA e RAM saranno le prime a ricevere il 787... quando è prevista la consegna?? In qualche articolo avevo letto a fine estate/inizio autunno di quest'anno è vero

[SuperMau]

ANA e RAM saranno le prime a ricevere il 787... quando è prevista la consegna?? In qualche articolo avevo letto a fine estate/inizio autunno di quest'anno è vero

TEORICAMENTE si, dopo l'estate...ma dopo tutto sto cinema con il 7late7, non mi stupirei di un'altro ritardo...

Ciao
M.

[mormegil]

Puoi cambiare qualcosa, a livello di velocità di consegna, il fatto che ad Everett siano parcheggiati circa 11-12 esemplari ormai quasi completati? (per lo più mancano i motori mi pare)

[atalanta89]

Il 787 visiterà il Giappone a Luglio:

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fligh ... d-for.html

[MiloR]

Voci dicono che il 787 arriva di nuovo a LPB

[mormegil]

Voci dicono che il 787 arriva di nuovo a LPB

Di nuovo? quando c'era già stato?

[MiloR]

Voci dicono che il 787 arriva di nuovo a LPB

Di nuovo? quando c'era già stato?

Gennaio!
E dicono anche il 748 ma questoè più improbabile

[mormegil]

Voci dicono che il 787 arriva di nuovo a LPB

Di nuovo? quando c'era già stato?

Gennaio!
E dicono anche il 748 ma questoè più improbabile

Non me lo ricordavo
Diciamo che non avrebbe comunque senso, dato che poi nessuna compagnia potrebbe poi operarlo su LPB.

[atalanta89]

Ecco il 787 China Southern:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/China-So ... 1929766/L/

[alessandro.capotondi]

Ecco il 787 China Southern:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/China-So ... 1929766/L/

un bellissimo aliante, per ora,...

Mi chiedevo a che servono i persi sui piloni dei motori?

[anonymous12345]

Ecco il 787 China Southern:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/China-So ... 1929766/L/

un bellissimo aliante, per ora,...

Mi chiedevo a che servono i persi sui piloni dei motori?

Pendo servan a tener bilanciato l'aereo anche senza i motori che "tengono giù" il muso..

[A320 Family Fan]

Presentati oggi a Le Bourget gli interni per Ana

Configurazione business class 1-2-1
Configurazione economy class 2-4-2 a differenza dei 3-3-3 delle altre compagnie


Ana, essendo anche il cliente di lancio avrà una livrea speciale sul primo 787


Articolo intero: http://www.airlinereporter.com/2011/06/ ... er-livery/

Approfitto per chiedere agli amministratori magari, sempre se possibile, di modificare il titolo "Ulteriori ritardi...." in "Thread 787" così nei prossimi mesi, senza aprire altri thread potremmo discutere direttamente qui delle consegne e futuri ordini visto che i ritardi sembrano essere terminati

[Skip100]

Configurazione economy class 2-4-2 a differenza dei 3-3-3 delle altre compagnie

Bellissima questa configurazione! Molto comoda per l'economy!

Approfitto per chiedere agli amministratori magari, sempre se possibile, di modificare il titolo "Ulteriori ritardi...." in "Thread 787" così nei prossimi mesi, senza aprire altri thread potremmo discutere direttamente qui delle consegne e futuri ordini visto che i ritardi sembrano essere terminati

Quoto!

[atalanta89]

fin quando non lo vedo nei piazzali e in volo pieno di passaeggeri, non ci credo!!!

[ciccioxx92]

Secondo la tecnica: "fidarsi è bene, non fidarsi è meglio"

[atalanta89]

esatto!!!

[A320 Family Fan]

Svelati anche livrea e interni Lot

Business 2-2-2
Economy Plus 2-3-2
Economy 3-3-3 (rispetto a 2-4-2 di ANA)


Articolo intero con immagini: https://www.lot.com/web/lot/b787;jsessi ... 9ACBC9C.l3

[Skip100]

Il video degli interni del 787 Ana... che economy!!!!!!





Stupenda!!!

[A320 Family Fan]

Il video degli interni del 787 Ana... che economy!!!!!!





Stupenda!!!

L'economy è molto bella e comoda rispetto alle configurazione 3-3-3 di altre compagnie (vedi Lot) però la business, anche se comoda, mi sembra troppo plasticosa!

[gianlu]

avete info circa l'evoluzione del rateo di produzione che dovrebbe avere il 787?
comunque gli interni belli davvero!!

[JT8D]

Dal Portale :

http://www.md80.it/2011/06/28/boeing-in ... prove-787/

Paolo