Altro off-field landing per airliner russo
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- AirGek
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Altro off-field landing per airliner russo
Tempi duri creano uomini forti,
Uomini forti creano tempi tranquilli,
Tempi tranquilli fanno gli uomini deboli,
Uomini deboli creano tempi duri
Uomini forti creano tempi tranquilli,
Tempi tranquilli fanno gli uomini deboli,
Uomini deboli creano tempi duri
Re: Altro off-field landing per airliner russo
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>Air-surfer,
Sembra che questo incidente stia portando, in molti, tanta incomprensione con riferimento:
AFM (Aircraft flight Manual), SB. (Service bullettin) ...e quant’altro?!
A Te non sembra?!
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>Air-surfer,
Sembra che questo incidente stia portando, in molti, tanta incomprensione con riferimento:
AFM (Aircraft flight Manual), SB. (Service bullettin) ...e quant’altro?!
A Te non sembra?!
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Re: Altro off-field landing per airliner russo
Ci faranno lattine di birra ormai
- JT8D
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Re: Altro off-field landing per airliner russo
Su AvHerald sono apparsi ulteriori dettagli:
"On Sep 14th 2023 investigators summarized the interview with the captain of the flight stating, that the aircraft had been inspected without any anomalies for departure from Moscow Domodedovo towards Sochi. The flight from Sochi had been normal until final approach into Omsk. The winds were gusting in Omsk, the aircraft was heavy, so that the commander decided to not take the risk of trying to land in Omsk and decided to take the aircraft to Novosibirsk. During the go around a hydraulic failure occurred after gear retraction, green hydraulic pressure was lost after gear retracted, the nose gear doors remained open as result of insufficient hydraulic pressure. They computed the fuel and found they should have about 1200kg of fuel left in Novosibirsk. While in flight to Novosibirsk the fuel quantity suddenly began to critically decrease, the crew declared emergency, instructed cabin crew to prepare for an emergency landing and began to look out for a suitable landing field. When only about 5 minutes of fuel was left they spotted the landing site and landed the aircraft there successfully, only the nose gear was fractured.
On Sep 15th 2023 the airline reported, that following the go-around the crew was monitoring their fuel usage which was fine. Only after crossing the point of no-return to Omsk the fuel quantity suddenly began to critically decrease about 70nm short of their top of descent. The crew did not wait until fuel was exhausted but began to immediately prepare for an emergency landing, spotted the landing site from the aircraft when only 5 minutes of fuel was left and landed with 200kg of fuel remaining".
(https://avherald.com/h?article=50e4701a&opt=0)
Paolo
"On Sep 14th 2023 investigators summarized the interview with the captain of the flight stating, that the aircraft had been inspected without any anomalies for departure from Moscow Domodedovo towards Sochi. The flight from Sochi had been normal until final approach into Omsk. The winds were gusting in Omsk, the aircraft was heavy, so that the commander decided to not take the risk of trying to land in Omsk and decided to take the aircraft to Novosibirsk. During the go around a hydraulic failure occurred after gear retraction, green hydraulic pressure was lost after gear retracted, the nose gear doors remained open as result of insufficient hydraulic pressure. They computed the fuel and found they should have about 1200kg of fuel left in Novosibirsk. While in flight to Novosibirsk the fuel quantity suddenly began to critically decrease, the crew declared emergency, instructed cabin crew to prepare for an emergency landing and began to look out for a suitable landing field. When only about 5 minutes of fuel was left they spotted the landing site and landed the aircraft there successfully, only the nose gear was fractured.
On Sep 15th 2023 the airline reported, that following the go-around the crew was monitoring their fuel usage which was fine. Only after crossing the point of no-return to Omsk the fuel quantity suddenly began to critically decrease about 70nm short of their top of descent. The crew did not wait until fuel was exhausted but began to immediately prepare for an emergency landing, spotted the landing site from the aircraft when only 5 minutes of fuel was left and landed with 200kg of fuel remaining".
(https://avherald.com/h?article=50e4701a&opt=0)
Paolo
"La corsa di decollo è una metamorfosi, ecco una quantità di metallo che si trasforma in aeroplano per mezzo dell'aria. Ogni corsa di decollo è la nascita di un aeroplano" (Staccando l'ombra da terra - D. Del Giudice)
- JT8D
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Re: Altro off-field landing per airliner russo
Sono assolutamente d'accordo con te, ma sembra che qualcuno la pensa diversamente:
"On Sep 17th 2023 the airline announced, that the aircraft is going to fly again soon.
On Sep 17th 2023 local observers reported, that the aircraft has been cleaned, all slides stowed, the doors closed, the engines have been covered, the landing gear was dug out of the ditches and cleaned, and it appears the aircraft is made ready to fly out again".
(https://avherald.com/h?article=50e4701a&opt=0)
Paolo
"La corsa di decollo è una metamorfosi, ecco una quantità di metallo che si trasforma in aeroplano per mezzo dell'aria. Ogni corsa di decollo è la nascita di un aeroplano" (Staccando l'ombra da terra - D. Del Giudice)
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Re: Altro off-field landing per airliner russo
Rivolò anche il 737-400 che atterrò in un campo dopo una doppia piantata… anzi se ricordo bene lo riposizionarono sù una strada e da lì ripartì.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TACA_Flight_110
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TACA_Flight_110
Tempi duri creano uomini forti,
Uomini forti creano tempi tranquilli,
Tempi tranquilli fanno gli uomini deboli,
Uomini deboli creano tempi duri
Uomini forti creano tempi tranquilli,
Tempi tranquilli fanno gli uomini deboli,
Uomini deboli creano tempi duri
Re: Altro off-field landing per airliner russo
sarebbe interessante capire come decollerà dal campoJT8D ha scritto: ↑18 settembre 2023, 19:27Sono assolutamente d'accordo con te, ma sembra che qualcuno la pensa diversamente:
"On Sep 17th 2023 the airline announced, that the aircraft is going to fly again soon.
On Sep 17th 2023 local observers reported, that the aircraft has been cleaned, all slides stowed, the doors closed, the engines have been covered, the landing gear was dug out of the ditches and cleaned, and it appears the aircraft is made ready to fly out again".
(https://avherald.com/h?article=50e4701a&opt=0)
Paolo
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Re: Altro off-field landing per airliner russo
Rosaviatsia ha rilasciato ulteriori informazioni:
"On Sep 26th 2023 Rosaviatsia reported during the final approach to Omsk, while extending the landing gear, there had been a green hydraulic failure prompting the crew to initiate a go around. The landing gear lever was placed into the up position, but the landing gear did not retract according to the FDR data, the failure of the gear retraction however was not noticed by the crew. While holding near Omsk the crew calculated the landing distance and calculated the fuel needed to divert to the alternate aerodrome followed by the decision to divert to Novosibirsk. While enroute to Novosibirsk the crew detected the increased fuel consumption and lack of fuel to reach Novosibirsk, selected a landing site from the air and landed there with 216 liters of fuel remaining. The failure of the hydraulic system occurred due to a fractured hose in the control line of the right main landing gear door".
(https://avherald.com/h?comment=50e4701a&opt=0)
Paolo
"On Sep 26th 2023 Rosaviatsia reported during the final approach to Omsk, while extending the landing gear, there had been a green hydraulic failure prompting the crew to initiate a go around. The landing gear lever was placed into the up position, but the landing gear did not retract according to the FDR data, the failure of the gear retraction however was not noticed by the crew. While holding near Omsk the crew calculated the landing distance and calculated the fuel needed to divert to the alternate aerodrome followed by the decision to divert to Novosibirsk. While enroute to Novosibirsk the crew detected the increased fuel consumption and lack of fuel to reach Novosibirsk, selected a landing site from the air and landed there with 216 liters of fuel remaining. The failure of the hydraulic system occurred due to a fractured hose in the control line of the right main landing gear door".
(https://avherald.com/h?comment=50e4701a&opt=0)
Sul farlo volare via ci personalmente ci credo pochissimo. Vedremo
Paolo
"La corsa di decollo è una metamorfosi, ecco una quantità di metallo che si trasforma in aeroplano per mezzo dell'aria. Ogni corsa di decollo è la nascita di un aeroplano" (Staccando l'ombra da terra - D. Del Giudice)
- Valerio Ricciardi
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Re: Altro off-field landing per airliner russo
Dipende da come stanno messi i motori e da quanto FOD hanno sostenuto. Quando gela, quel posto per decollare in sé va più che bene, tanto più che l'A320 è un bireattore con il surplus di potenza relativo.
Se i motori sono stati danneggiati o li sostituisci in loco o resta lì aspettando di diventare l'attrazione di un agriturismo...
Se i motori sono stati danneggiati o li sostituisci in loco o resta lì aspettando di diventare l'attrazione di un agriturismo...
"The curve is flattening: we can start lifting restrictions now" = "The parachute has slowed our rate of descent: we can take it off now!"
Chesley Burnett "Sully" Sullenberger
Chesley Burnett "Sully" Sullenberger
Re: Altro off-field landing per airliner russo
la faccenda si fa interessante
Ural Airlines confirms plan to fly stranded Airbus A320 out of field
https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/ural ... rbus-field
Ural Airlines confirms plan to fly stranded Airbus A320 out of field
https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/ural ... rbus-field
Re: Altro off-field landing per airliner russo
updates.... anche se non molto interessanti.
Sembra che il progetto di farlo decollare col terreno ghiacciato, sia stato accantonato
https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/ural ... eld-russia
Sembra che il progetto di farlo decollare col terreno ghiacciato, sia stato accantonato
https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/ural ... eld-russia
Re: Altro off-field landing per airliner russo
alla fine si è deciso che sarà smantellato sul posto:
https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/ral- ... ssia-field
https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/ral- ... ssia-field
Re: Altro off-field landing per airliner russo
Chi è sorpreso? Io no