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Messaggio da richelieu » 15 agosto 2012, 23:47

Chiudi gli occhi.
Li riapri. E sei arrivato.
Un veloce battito di ciglia in un motore.
Oggi è il giorno del futuro per la Difesa americana: verrà testato l'aereo ipersonico X-51 Waverider, un velivolo con un motore "scramjet" che potrà raggiungere i 7.242 chilometri orari.
Per intenderci, Londra New York in un'ora.
Ha la forma di un missile ed è stato progettato per fini militari: anche se forse in un futuro potrà essere utilizzato anche per il trasporto di merci o persone.
Un futuro in verità ancora alquanto lontano ..... perchè le fantasmagoriche previsioni del "Corrierone" di questa mattina .....

http://www.corriere.it/scienze_e_tecnol ... a873.shtml

http://video.corriere.it/superaereo-che ... 9c31caec0a

..... si sono poi purtroppo scontrate con la dura realtà ..... UN FLOP ..... :(
US Hypersonic Aircraft Crashed Early In Test Flight, Military Says .....
Fonte ..... http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.asp ... 486330.xml

X-51A Waverider test flight ends in failure .....
Fonte ..... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... re-375529/


Intendiamoci ..... non c’è da stupirsi ..... perché, quando si intraprende la via delle tecnologie avanzate, gli insuccessi sono all’ordine del giorno ..... ma, prima o poi, se vi sono adeguati investimenti e non intervengono ripensamenti (cosa non impossibile), la meta può essere raggiunta.

Quello che mi stupisce (ma in realtà non dovrebbe) è invece il modo col quale i “gazzettieri” nostrani affrontano certi argomenti .....

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Aggiornamenti .....
Fin Failure Dooms Third X-51A Flight .....
Fonte ..... http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.asp ... 486354.xml

Hypersonic X-51 Unsuccessful -- Engine Not to Blame .....
Fonte ..... http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx? ... 05eca3e0bf

Air Force Confirms X-51 Fin Failure .....
Fonte ..... http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx? ... e96b085758


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E credo bene che il motore non sia da criticare ..... non avevano neanche avuto il tempo di avviarlo .....
"It is unfortunate that a problem with this subsystem caused a termination before we could light the Scramjet engine," said Charlie Brink, X-51A Program Manager for Air Force Research Laboratory.
"All our data showed we had created the right conditions for engine ignition and we were very hopeful to meet our test objectives."

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Messaggio da MatteF88 » 16 agosto 2012, 10:46

Ieri sul CdS prima ancora del test sembrava già scontato l'esito positivo, viaggeremo da Londra a new york in un ora...oggi ho visto un servizio su rainews in cui traspariva il fatto che il progetto X-51 è senza speranza...si passa da un estremo all'altro...si son dimenticati che il waverider ha già volato a mach 5? O forse manco lo sapevano....

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Messaggio da richelieu » 16 agosto 2012, 11:28

MatteF88 ha scritto:Ieri sul CdS prima ancora del test sembrava già scontato l'esito positivo, viaggeremo da Londra a new york in un ora...oggi ho visto un servizio su rainews in cui traspariva il fatto che il progetto X-51 è senza speranza...si passa da un estremo all'altro...si son dimenticati che il waverider ha già volato a mach 5?
O forse manco lo sapevano....

Ma cosa vuoi che sappiano ..... :drunken:

..... posso anche capire che tanti giornalisti non abbiano il dono dell' onniscienza ..... ma basterebbe soltanto che venisse interpellato un esperto del settore e certe cantonate potrebbero essere facilmente evitate .....

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Messaggio da giragyro » 16 agosto 2012, 12:16

l'x15 a mach 6 manco sanno cosa fosse......
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Messaggio da richelieu » 16 agosto 2012, 13:52

giragyro ha scritto:l'x15 a mach 6 manco sanno cosa fosse......
Non sanno niente (o quasi) di quello che accade oggi ..... figurati se sono al corrente di avvenimenti che appartengono ormai all' archeologia aeronautica ..... :mrgreen:

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Messaggio da flyforever85 » 16 agosto 2012, 15:50

E' un po' come quando lanciarono il 787... l'aereo in plastica... pero' mi metto a ridere ogni volta che penso ad un aereo come l'X51 che fa un viaggio per passeggeri tra new york e londra a mach6-7.... la nonnina mi si spiaccica sul sedile per tutta l'accelerazione..... povera nonnina....
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Messaggio da sochmer » 18 agosto 2012, 17:48

flyforever85 ha scritto:E' un po' come quando lanciarono il 787... l'aereo in plastica... pero' mi metto a ridere ogni volta che penso ad un aereo come l'X51 che fa un viaggio per passeggeri tra new york e londra a mach6-7.... la nonnina mi si spiaccica sul sedile per tutta l'accelerazione..... povera nonnina....
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Messaggio da MatteF88 » 18 agosto 2012, 18:44

Dal link di richelieu:
The USAF does have a spare X-51A vehicle remaining in its inventory, but AFRL officials have not yet decided if they will launch it.
Meglio essere sicuri prima di giocarsi anche l'ultimo esemplare!! :mrgreen:

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Messaggio da richelieu » 24 agosto 2012, 18:48

Un editoriale .....
Editorial .....

Failures In Flight Testing Create A Learning Curve .....

Fonte ..... Aviation Week & Space Technology (Aug 27, 2012 - p. 54)


The hypersonics community is accustomed to failure, but that has done nothing to temper the deep disappointment after the X-51A Waverider demonstrator's third flight ended before its supersonic-combustion ramjet engine could be fired. The Aug. 14 test fizzled seconds after it began due to a control fin malfunction. It followed a largely successful first test in May 2010, and is the latest in a string of failures.

But there have also been successes, and it is those that continue to keep the hopes for hypersonics alive. The first U.S. Air Force X-51A achieved 143 sec of scramjet-powered flight—11 times the duration set by NASA 's X-43A in 2004. The rocket-boosted Army Hypersonic Weapon flew from Hawaii to Kwajalein Atoll in less than 30 min. in November 2011, and in May of this year, under a U.S.-Australian cooperative program, the HIFire 2 scramjet was launched successfully from Hawaii.

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Now there is a debate about whether the Air Force should fund the flight of a fourth X-51A demonstrator already built by Boeing and scramjet developer Pratt & Whitney Rocketdyne as part of the original program. The answer is an emphatic yes!

After more than 10 years of irregular warfare in Iraq and Afghanistan, where the aerospace and defense industry's ingenuity has been directed toward fighting insurgents and terrorists, the U.S. is looking again at what it will take to fight an adversary with the ability to deny the U.S. freedom to operate with impunity in enemy airspace. The development of stealth bought the U.S. a huge technology advantage, but that will erode over time.

One direction to follow could be to achieve substantially higher speeds and greater range, dramatically reducing a defender's reaction time while keeping U.S. forces safely out of range. As a technological game-changer in a future near-peer conflict, the idea of a hypersonic strike weapon is very appealing. That is why the Air Force Research Laboratory and Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency continue to pursue technology demonstrations.

And therein lies the problem. There is just enough data to suggest such a weapon is feasible but not enough to establish its practicality. Still, whenever the military comes looking for technological superiority, hypersonics gets another lease on life.

In the current budget environment, and with today's demands for program performance, it takes a leap-ahead concept to get customers' attention. High-speed and global-range strike weapons are such ideas. We are talking revolutionary science here, not your garden variety technology innovations. In such endeavors, failure is an integral part of the learning process, and the knowledge base required to achieve success is still being built. The result is that industry ends up conducting system design, technology development and basic research all in parallel, with predictable results.

Despite decades of research, industry is still compiling new information about aerodynamics, propulsion, flight control and thermal protection in the hypersonic regime. Unlike stealth, which was developed in a focused, albeit secretive effort, there has been no sustained research program in hypersonics with a sufficient number of flights to master both the art and the science.

In an interview for a special report on small, innovative companies to be published in the next issue, the CEO of a fledgling space-technology developer tells Aviation Week & Space Technology that his company's culture includes “making mistakes as fast as possible.” By making them early, when they are inexpensive, and openly discussing the reasons, the CEO believes costly, fundamental failures can be avoided later. That has not happened with hypersonics.

There have been relatively few flight tests conducted over the decades to bring down the costs and risks that hypersonics entails. Managers of each new program try to justify its existence by reaching further than the one before, increasing the risk and cost of failure. Sadly, neither the nation nor the aerospace industry seem willing any longer to countenance failure. And that in itself is a failure of the engineering community , the culture we have created for ourselves and ultimately leadership.

Hypersonics is just the tip of the iceberg. Throughout aerospace , potentially valuable technologies are being held back because of a fear of failure , even at an early stage of R&D. Somehow this industry —essential as it is—has reached a point where there is little or no tolerance for risk. If we are to make progress in hypersonics, then it is time to come to terms with the fact that setbacks will occur. Four X-51s were built for a reason: More flights mean more lessons learned. The last flight failed. So what!

Now it is time to pick ourselves up, resume flight testing and solve the tough problems associated with the development of hypersonics. Fly the remaining X-51, and use it for the purpose for which it was intended: a flying testbed.

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Messaggio da richelieu » 25 ottobre 2012, 18:04

X-51A Waverider ..... le cause del fallimento del terzo volo di collaudo .....
August failure of Boeing X-51 likely due to fin, resonance .....

The US Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) has pinpointed an aerodynamic fin and natural resonance as the likely cause of the 14 August failure of the Boeing X-51 experimental hypersonic vehicle.
Fonte ..... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... ce-378080/

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Messaggio da MatteF88 » 3 maggio 2013, 13:08

Sembra che alla fine ci sia riuscito :occasion9:
The U.S. Air Force Research Laboratory’s (AFRL) Boeing X-51A Waverider demonstrator successfully achieved sustained, scramjet-powered, air-breathing hypersonic flight above Mach 5 in its final test flight on May 1.

Although the Air Force is not yet commenting on details of the flight, the X-51A is thought to have experienced positive acceleration to speeds in excess of Mach 5 and run for the full duration of the planned powered phase of the test. Based on targets established for the previous test attempt, this could have been as long as 300 sec., followed by an unpowered gliding descent of around 500 sec. prior to impacting the sea in the Pacific Test range west of California. If these times and speeds are confirmed, they will represent new records for sustained, air-breathing hypersonic flight.
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"La corsa di decollo è una metamorfosi, ecco una quantità di metallo che si trasforma in aeroplano per mezzo dell'aria. Ogni corsa di decollo è la nascita di un aeroplano" (Staccando l'ombra da terra - D. Del Giudice)


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Messaggio da richelieu » 17 settembre 2014, 14:39

Ottimismo dell'USAF sui futuri 'ipersonici' ..... e non solo su quelli .....
Beyond Perpetually Promising .....

(John A. Tirpak - 9/17/2014)

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​Hypersonics and directed energy will soon become programs of record, Air Force Research Lab Commander Maj. Gen. Thomas Masiello told AFA's Air & Space Conference, Sept. 16, 2014.
Staff photo by Kristina L. Parrill


Hypersonics and directed energy have exited the realm of the perpetually promising and will soon become programs of record, said Air Force Research Lab Commander Maj. Gen. Thomas Masiello on Tuesday.
The success of the X-51 demonstrator program proved "hypersonics and scramjets are real" and could, by the early 2020s, be adapted into standoff weapons, he said in his speech at AFA's Air & Space Conference outside Washington, D.C.
By the 2030s, he sees hypersonic platforms for potential "deep strike of high-value targets" or for intelligence-gathering work.
By the 2040s, a "reusable, persistent" hypersonic vehicle could be manned or unmanned, he said.
As for lasers, the Air Force has moved beyond the "flying HAZMAT," or hazardous materials, approach of chemical lasers and has broken new ground in electric, or solid-state lasers, said Masiello.
By 2022, he anticipates a podded system on a fighter capable of "tens of kilowatts" of power, and by the late 2020s, a packaged system that could fit in a fighter with 100 kilowatts or more of power.
Steerable, high-powered microwaves with the ability to precisely knock out the electronics in a building or chemical lab blockhouse have already been demonstrated aboard a cruise missile in the CHAMP program, said Masiello.
That technology "is here now," he said.
Fonte ..... il 'Daily Report' dell' AFA .....

Per quel che riguarda i laser ..... il generale si stava probabilmente riferendo a questo .....

"Lockheed's New Laser Super Turret Could Change Air Combat Forever" .....
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/lockhe ... 1635210849

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Messaggio da richelieu » 11 maggio 2017, 11:34

Signori ..... si accelera .....
On May 3, 2017, Air Force senior leaders met to consider options to accelerate hypersonics research and development to break even more speed barriers and ensure continued technological superiority.
Hypersonics refers to flying at five times the speed of sound, also known as “Mach 5,” or higher.
From an Air Force perspective, it is a game-changing capability which can amplify many of the enduring attributes of airpower including speed, range, flexibility and precision.
“We must push the boundaries of technology in every area," said Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. David L. Goldfein.
"Our adversaries aren’t standing still. They are looking for every advantage they can get.”
A recent Air Force Studies Board report identified that the U.S. is not alone in its quest for this increased speed.
For example, China and Russia are already flight testing hypersonic weapons, and several other countries have shown interest in pursuing many of the underlying technologies for hypersonic flight.
“We have a real sense of urgency,” said Dr. Greg Zacharias, the Air Force chief scientist.
“The acting secretary directed this discussion as a call to arms to maintain our heritage of excellence in this area.”
Fonte: U.S. AIR FORCE ..... "Accelerating hypersonics development" .....
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Messaggio da richelieu » 19 aprile 2018, 9:37

Missile da crociera ipersonico ..... e Lockheed Martin ottenne il contratto .....
Huntsville, Alabama-based Lockheed Martin Space will develop the US Air Force’s first hypersonic cruise missile under a new contract (*) awarded on 18 April.
The indefinite-delivery and indefinite quantity award worth up to $928 million suggests the USAF is ready to move past several decades of development and demonstrations of weapons that can cruise for long distances at speeds exceeding Mach 5.
Fonte: flightglobal.com ..... "USAF awards Lockheed Martin $928 million contract for hypersonic cruise missile" .....

(*) ..... https://www.defense.gov/News/Contracts/ ... e/1497461/ .....

Anche qui ..... defensenews.com ..... "Air Force awards nearly $1 billion contract for a hypersonic cruise missile" .....
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