Q400 US-BANGLA crash at KTM
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Q400 US-BANGLA crash at KTM
McGyver
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Ci sedemmo dalla parte del torto visto che tutti gli altri posti erano occupati.
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E' troppo assurdo per essere vero. O forse nosigmet ha scritto:Una trascrizione che ha dell'incredibile...
http://www.jacdec.de/2018/03/12/2018-03 ... kathmandu/
McGyver
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Tra la confusione delle comunicazioni e i cambi di voce (maschio-femmina) la sensazione che non si sa chi vola l'aeroplano è sempre più forte.
"They say every man dies twice, once when his body goes and again, when his name is uttered for the last time."
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Re: Q400 US-BANGLA crash at TIA
Le comunicazioni sono comprese in questi due file. Bordello assoluto, m'è venuto mal di testa
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Si ma anche in torre mi pare che tirano la monetina per decidere la pista.....davymax ha scritto:Tra la confusione delle comunicazioni e i cambi di voce (maschio-femmina) la sensazione che non si sa chi vola l'aeroplano è sempre più forte.
Be'....sono andato un po' in giro...
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air.surfer
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Quel posto dovrebberlo chiuderlo all'istante.
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Senza parole
È meglio rimanere in silenzio ed essere considerati imbecilli piuttosto che aprire bocca e togliere ogni dubbio
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air.surfer
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Re: Q400 US-BANGLA crash at TIA
Ah.. e lo IATA di Khatmandu è KTM. TIA è Tirana...
Re: Q400 US-BANGLA crash at TIA
Colpa mia, ho stupidamente "acronimizzato" Tribhuvan International Airport (il cui sito tiairport.com.np). Effettivamente TIA mi aveva dato una sensazione di déjà-vu ma nella fretta non mi era sovvenuto Tirana. Faccio ammendaair.surfer ha scritto:Ah.. e lo IATA di Khatmandu è KTM. TIA è Tirana...
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Re: Q400 US-BANGLA crash at KTM
"On Mar 14th 2018 Nepal's CAA reported that the black boxes have been recovered, an accident investigation commission consisting of six people has been formed. Bangladesh as well as the aircraft manufacturer are participating in the investigation led by Nepal's CAA.
On Mar 14th 2018 a ground observer located just west of the international terminal reported he observed the aircraft on a southeasterly heading near the southern edge of the international terminal heading for taxiway D (connecting runway and parallel taxiway just south of the international apron, perpendicular to the runway). Seconds later the plume of smoke began to arise.
On Mar 14th 2018 other ground observers (supported by a video having surfaced on Mar 14th 2018) reported the aircraft had been in an orbit north of the aerodrome near Kapan about 2nm northnorthwest of the aerodrome (as if holding in a right hand traffic pattern to runway 20 where the turn to base would occur). It subsequently appeared to turn towards the south of the aerodrome possibly for a left hand visual traffic pattern to runway 02.
According to extended ATC recordings another aircraft, Buddha Flight 282, was trailing the Dash 8 on approach to runway 02 and was advised of the Dash 8 ahead by approach control before being handed off to tower. After the Dash turned left to join a right hand traffic pattern for runway 20 at 08:29Z - against clearance to land on runway 02 - a conflict arose between the Dash 8 and the Buddha flight. Tower told the Dash 8 about the Buddha on short final to runway 02 two miles out and instructed the Dash to enter a right hand orbit stressing to not land on runway 20. The Buddha aircraft landed on runway 02, tower advised the Dash that the runway was clear again and cleared the Dash to land on runway 20, however, when asked about having runway 20 in sight the crew denied which led tower to clear the aircraft to land on runway 02. The crew reported to have runway 02 in sight and queried whether they were cleared to land, which tower affirmed. Soon after tower informed other aircraft about an aircraft accident and sent all arrivals into holds".
(http://avherald.com/h?article=4b5fa1cb&opt=0)
Paolo
On Mar 14th 2018 a ground observer located just west of the international terminal reported he observed the aircraft on a southeasterly heading near the southern edge of the international terminal heading for taxiway D (connecting runway and parallel taxiway just south of the international apron, perpendicular to the runway). Seconds later the plume of smoke began to arise.
On Mar 14th 2018 other ground observers (supported by a video having surfaced on Mar 14th 2018) reported the aircraft had been in an orbit north of the aerodrome near Kapan about 2nm northnorthwest of the aerodrome (as if holding in a right hand traffic pattern to runway 20 where the turn to base would occur). It subsequently appeared to turn towards the south of the aerodrome possibly for a left hand visual traffic pattern to runway 02.
According to extended ATC recordings another aircraft, Buddha Flight 282, was trailing the Dash 8 on approach to runway 02 and was advised of the Dash 8 ahead by approach control before being handed off to tower. After the Dash turned left to join a right hand traffic pattern for runway 20 at 08:29Z - against clearance to land on runway 02 - a conflict arose between the Dash 8 and the Buddha flight. Tower told the Dash 8 about the Buddha on short final to runway 02 two miles out and instructed the Dash to enter a right hand orbit stressing to not land on runway 20. The Buddha aircraft landed on runway 02, tower advised the Dash that the runway was clear again and cleared the Dash to land on runway 20, however, when asked about having runway 20 in sight the crew denied which led tower to clear the aircraft to land on runway 02. The crew reported to have runway 02 in sight and queried whether they were cleared to land, which tower affirmed. Soon after tower informed other aircraft about an aircraft accident and sent all arrivals into holds".
(http://avherald.com/h?article=4b5fa1cb&opt=0)
Paolo
"La corsa di decollo è una metamorfosi, ecco una quantità di metallo che si trasforma in aeroplano per mezzo dell'aria. Ogni corsa di decollo è la nascita di un aeroplano" (Staccando l'ombra da terra - D. Del Giudice)
Re: Q400 US-BANGLA crash at KTM
Un filmato del Q400 nella riattaccata per la 02 prima dell'incidente. L'aereo e' chiaramente destabilizzato.
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Questa e' una ricostruzione approssimativa che ho fatto della traiettoria dopo la riattaccata.
Verrebbe da pensare che si sia confuso con la taxyway che collega le due piazzole sud /nord ...
Verrebbe da pensare che si sia confuso con la taxyway che collega le due piazzole sud /nord ...
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Re: Q400 US-BANGLA crash at KTM
Rilasciato il Preliminary Report:
"On Apr 10th 2018 Nepal's AAIC released their preliminary report reporting the aircraft touched down about 1700 meters down runway 20, travelled on the ground towards the southeast, went off the runway, broke through the inner perimeter fence, moved down along a rough downslope and stopped after a ground travel of 442 meters at the eastern side of the runway (editorial note: the coordinates of touch down point and final position do not match the narrative). The aircraft caught fire and was destroyed. All 4 crew and 47 passengers perished, 20 passengers survived with serious injuries. Initially 22 passengers were rescued alive from the crash site, two later succumbed to their injuries. The cockpit voice and flight data recorders were recovered and were dispatched to the Transport Safety Board Canada (TSB) together with other aircraft components like PSEU, EGPWS, EMU and QAR."
(http://avherald.com/h?article=4b5fa1cb&opt=0)
Preliminary Report completo: http://www.tourism.gov.np/downloadfile/ ... 376481.pdf
Paolo
"On Apr 10th 2018 Nepal's AAIC released their preliminary report reporting the aircraft touched down about 1700 meters down runway 20, travelled on the ground towards the southeast, went off the runway, broke through the inner perimeter fence, moved down along a rough downslope and stopped after a ground travel of 442 meters at the eastern side of the runway (editorial note: the coordinates of touch down point and final position do not match the narrative). The aircraft caught fire and was destroyed. All 4 crew and 47 passengers perished, 20 passengers survived with serious injuries. Initially 22 passengers were rescued alive from the crash site, two later succumbed to their injuries. The cockpit voice and flight data recorders were recovered and were dispatched to the Transport Safety Board Canada (TSB) together with other aircraft components like PSEU, EGPWS, EMU and QAR."
(http://avherald.com/h?article=4b5fa1cb&opt=0)
Preliminary Report completo: http://www.tourism.gov.np/downloadfile/ ... 376481.pdf
Paolo
"La corsa di decollo è una metamorfosi, ecco una quantità di metallo che si trasforma in aeroplano per mezzo dell'aria. Ogni corsa di decollo è la nascita di un aeroplano" (Staccando l'ombra da terra - D. Del Giudice)
Re: Q400 US-BANGLA crash at KTM
Il preliminary non fa menzione di riattaccata cosa che invece sembrava dal filmato postato in precedenza. Cio' rafforza l'idea di un avvicinamento fuori controllo e di un equipaggio totalmente incapacitato al momento dell'incidente.
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JT8D
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Rilasciato il final report dell'incidente:
http://tourism.gov.np//files/publication_files/284.pdf
Riassunto anche qui:
http://avherald.com/h?article=4b5fa1cb&opt=0
Paolo
http://tourism.gov.np//files/publication_files/284.pdf
Riassunto anche qui:
http://avherald.com/h?article=4b5fa1cb&opt=0
Paolo
"La corsa di decollo è una metamorfosi, ecco una quantità di metallo che si trasforma in aeroplano per mezzo dell'aria. Ogni corsa di decollo è la nascita di un aeroplano" (Staccando l'ombra da terra - D. Del Giudice)