Mark your calendars, N787BA (787, nda) and 747-8 N747EX are both scheduled to attempt B1 flights on December 22.
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ragazzi..... quanta differenza di ore c'è da qui a seattle?

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Dovrebbe essere 9 ore. Fossi in te però aspetterei la conferma prima di pianificare la notte in bianco.sochmer ha scritto: ragazzi..... quanta differenza di ore c'è da qui a seattle?
Se lo farà mi potrò dire fortunato, visto che tra qui e Seattle ci sono solo 3 ore di differenzasochmer ha scritto:farò 2 notti in bianco![]()
credete che boeing faccia un livestreaming per l'evento?
Come si può fare per seguirlo?FAS ha scritto:piuttosto organizzatevi per il primo volo del'A400M che é imminente
forse sul sito internet....MarcoGT ha scritto:Come si può fare per seguirlo?FAS ha scritto:piuttosto organizzatevi per il primo volo del'A400M che é imminente
Ottima ideaFAS ha scritto:forse sul sito internet....
magari vi informo in anticipo
A questo punto per il primo volo basterebbe anche solo un giro campo, stile cessnino in aeroclub....FAS ha scritto: Resta fermo il punto che la FAA ha imposto un inviluppo di volo limitato che é normale per i primi voli, ma nel caso del B787 é inferiore a quelli imposti per altri velivoli della stessa categoria..
albert ha scritto:A questo punto per il primo volo basterebbe anche solo un giro campo, stile cessnino in aeroclub....FAS ha scritto: Resta fermo il punto che la FAA ha imposto un inviluppo di volo limitato che é normale per i primi voli, ma nel caso del B787 é inferiore a quelli imposti per altri velivoli della stessa categoria..
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si... è normale tranquillolucAirbus ha scritto:quella piegata è l'ala?
Più che altro i morti vi furono quando l'aereo divenne operativo ..... specialmente in Germania ..... ricordo che negli anni Sessanta, in particolare nella seconda metà, vi furono delle polemiche feroci riguardo le perdite umane registrate nella Luftwaffe .....I_disa ha scritto:
..... i tempi dell F-104 Starfighter sono lontani: il velivolo era stato ribattezzato la bara volante visto il numero di collaudatori morti nei primi voli a seguito di problemi tecnici .....
Safety record (F-104 ..... da Wikipedia) .....
The safety record of the F-104 Starfighter became high profile news especially in Germany in the mid-1960s, and lingers in the minds of the public even to this day. Some operators lost a large proportion of their aircraft through accidents, although the accident rate varied widely depending on the user and operating conditions; the Luftwaffe lost about 30% of aircraft in accidents over its operating career, and Canada lost over 50% of its F-104s. The Spanish Air Force, however, lost none. The Starfighter was a particular favorite of the Aeronautica Militare Italiana (Italian Air Force), although the AMI's accident rate was far from the lowest of Starfighter users.
The Class A mishap rate of the F-104 in USAF service was 26.7 accidents per 100,000 flight hours as of June 1977, (30.63 through the end of 2007), the highest accident rate of any USAF Century Series fighter. By comparison, the rate of the F-102 Delta Dagger was 14.2/100,000 (13.69 through 2007), and the mishap rate for the F-100 Super Sabre was 16.25 accidents per 100,000 flight hours.
Notable U.S. Air Force pilots who lost their lives in F-104 accidents include Major Robert H. Lawrence, Jr. and Captain Iven Kincheloe. Civilian (retired USAAF) pilot Joe Walker died in a midair collision with an XB-70 Valkyrie while flying an F-104.
Chuck Yeager was nearly killed when he lost control of an NF-104A during a high-altitude record-breaking attempt. He lost the tips of two fingers and was hospitalized for a long period with severe burns after the flight.
L'incidente di Yeager, veramente terrificante, è magistralmente descritto nel libro "La Stoffa Giusta" ("The Right Stuff") di Tom Wolfe, che venne pubblicato in Italia nel 1981 da Sperling & Kupfer e dal quale venne tratto il noto film "Uomini Veri" .....Nicknames (sempre da Wikipedia) .....
The Starfighter was commonly called the "missile with a man in it"; a name swiftly trademarked by Lockheed for marketing purposes. The term "Super Starfighter" was used by Lockheed to describe the F-104G in marketing campaigns, but fell into disuse. In service, American pilots called it the "Zipper" or "Zip-104" because of its prodigious speed. The Japan Air Self-Defense Force called it Eiko ("Glory"). A less charitable name appeared, "The Flying Coffin" from the translation of the common German public name of Fliegender Sarg. The F-104 was also called Witwenmacher ("Widowmaker"), or Erdnagel ("ground nail") – the official military term for a tent peg. The Pakistani AF name was Badmash ("Hooligan"), while among Italian pilots its spiky design earned it the nickname Spillone ("Hatpin"), along with Bara volante ("Flying coffin"). Canadian pilots sometimes referred to it as the "Widowmaker".
The engine made a unique howling sound at certain throttle settings which led to NASA F-104B Starfighter N819NA being named Howling Howland.
Dicci, dicci...FAS ha scritto:forse sul sito internet....MarcoGT ha scritto:Come si può fare per seguirlo?FAS ha scritto:piuttosto organizzatevi per il primo volo del'A400M che é imminente
magari vi informo in anticipo
Beh, a quanto sembra avete scoperto il vero segreto del 787. Per risparmiare sul kerosene, i nuoverrimi e pluri-osannati motori del 787 andranno a vapore generato da carbonella. Un'altra coraggiosa scelta della Boeing che permetterà, tra l'altro, al personale di bordo di offrire buonissimi barbecue cotti sul momento ai passeggeri durante il volo.richelieu ha scritto:Per ora fumo ..... a quando l'arrosto.....
Mica male come idea ..... molto suggestiva ..... anche se fa a pugni con la sicurezza dell'aeromobile .....Ashaman ha scritto:
..... Un'altra coraggiosa scelta della Boeing che permetterà, tra l'altro, al personale di bordo di offrire buonissimi barbecue cotti sul momento ai passeggeri durante il volo.....
.....DATE: 08/12/09
SOURCE: Air Transport Intelligence news
787 approaches final gauntlet testing
By Jon Ostrower
Before Boeing can undergo final high-speed taxi tests ahead of first flight, the 787 must pass two major milestones.
The first is a major series of tests for ZA001 - Boeing's first 787 test aircraft - that comes in the form of closed loop "Final Gauntlet" testing to evaluate ZA001's systems while fooling the aircraft in believing it is flying.
Final Gauntlet tests are scheduled to begin as early as 8 December and last -two to- three days. Boeing says its flight test preparations have the Final Gauntlet being completed ahead of taxi testing.
Programme sources say the Final Gauntlet will be split into two primary blocks. The first includes a B1 first flight profile, the standard checkout of all aircraft systems as part of standard production testing. The second block will be a more rigorous "first flight" final gauntlet with an expanded profile of tests and failure scenarios.
The second milestone, expected to come by 10 December, is a final validation of the side-of-body reinforcement designed to strengthen the upper stringers of the wing and centre wing box of the 787.
Boeing announced 23 June that the 787 was grounded to design a fix that would provide full structural margins to the aircraft's side-of-body structure. The company completed modification on 12 November.
The modification consisted of installing new fittings at 34 stringer locations within the joint where the wing meets the fuselage.
Boeing completed all pre-flight tests on the 787 static airframe on 30 November and said results would be analyzed within 10 days.
On 8 December, Boeing also plans to set up its Flight Emulation Test System (FETS), that interfaces directly with the aircraft and governs the gauntlet test.
The FETS system is part of a Boeing-patented method of "fooling" the aircraft's inertial and air data systems while in a simulated flying environment. This "stimuli", according to the original 1993 Boeing patent, causes aircraft systems to respond, allowing Boeing to demonstrate in-flight performance while remaining on the ground.
ZA001 recently completed an initial flight readiness review, followed by thrust reverser actuation, along with the central processor that monitors the aircraft's gross weight and center of gravity.
During the weekend, programme sources say ZA001 also completed electronic brake checks operated only on the main battery, along with hydraulic system leaks checks and regression testing of the latest flight control software build, version 8.0.2.
Boeing's first flight window remains slated for any time in December, but sources say that the company is targeting 15 December for the aircraft's maiden sortie.
.....Fonte: "Things with Wings"
The Commercial Aviation Blog (AW&ST)
787 Countdown to first flight (resumed) Part 2
Posted by Guy Norris at 12/7/2009 10:14 AM CST
After a hectic weekend at Everett it seems as if all testing has so far gone to plan and that ZA001, the first 787, may soon be moving again under its own power. The aircraft currently remains at Stall 105 on the flight line, but sources indicate an all-hands 'safety walk' is expected to take place sometime today - generally taken as a good sign of imminent taxi testing.
For those interested in numbers, ZA001 has been fitted with Rolls-Royce Trent 1000's 10015 and 10016. The engines were maintained and given minor 'tweaks' during the six-month delay, but are substantially unchanged since June. The first major change will come next year when the upgraded 'Package B' engines are retrofittted to ZA004 later in the flight test program. ZA004 is currently assigned engine's 10023 and 21.
ZA002, which is due to commence systems ground tests today, is powered by 10012 and 10020, while ZA003 has 10018 and 10019. The first Package B engine, which is designed to bring the Trent-powered 787 to within 1% of spec, is set to enter tests in the UK later this week.
In realtà questo test ha avuto il solo scopo di dimostrare che con le modifiche non vi fossero problemi: infatti non è stato superato il 150% del massimo carico progettuale, ma solo il 100%; questo per permettere il primo volo senza ulteriori ritardi, ma il test di carico sulle ali dovrà essere ripetuto prima di ottenere la certificazione....Danilik ha scritto:impressionante! un altro pò, e ci si può fare un nodo sopra la fusoliera con le ali
.....Fonte: "Things with Wings"
The Commercial Aviation Blog (AW&ST)
787 Countdown to first flight (resumed) Part 3
Posted by Guy Norris at 12/8/2009 10:31 AM CST
Go for gauntlet! Test teams on the 787 are starting a busy two days of pre-flight gauntlet tests which involves ground tests of on-board systems that essentially ‘fool’ the aircraft into believing that it is airborne.
The testing, which began on ZA001 at Everett this morning (Decwith a B1 first flight profile, is being broken up into four major blocks. However, unlike the first time around when B1 profiles began to be tested at the end of May, sources say there will be no system-specific test blocks in this round - most of the ground work having been accomplished several times over in previous phases. In late May and early June when ZA001 was entering gauntlet, for example, B1 was followed by a series of specific block checks on the electrical, hydraulic, flight control, avionics and propulsion system. Today, by contrast, Boeing is focusing on the B1 profile for up to 10 hours, before switching gears this evening to a block of potential failure conditions.
A third block is due to start overnight on additional failure modes, while a fourth on Wednesday will cover a simulated full flight with conditions more akin to those that will be experienced during flight test rather than the standard Boeing pre-delivery shakedown checks of a B1. For interesting detail on the Flight Emulation Test System (FETS) that forms the heart of the test equipment used in gauntlet check out Jon Ostrower’s Flightblogger site.
The next two days will also see more rehearsals for the telemetry crew manning the ground station at Boeing Field in Seattle. This time the test team on board ZA001 will be connected via video link to the telemetry room while they conduct the full-flight simulation.
...e con soli 2 anni e mezzo di ritardo... bello.lucAirbus ha scritto:Mini notizia:
Boeing confirms start of 787 final gauntlet
fonte: http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fligh ... start.html
Boeing ups 787 weights, shrinks -9 wing
fonte: http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... -wing.html